The St John Ambulance ireland Child Protection experience

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The St John Ambulance ireland Child Protection experience

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St John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection Experience

St John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection ExperienceSt John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection ExperienceSt John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection Experience

This site is to  document the experiences of child protection in St John  Ireland.  Their actions - verbal and written. 

St John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection Experience

St John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection ExperienceSt John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection ExperienceSt John Ambulance Ireland Child Protection Experience

This site is to  document the experiences of child protection in St John  Ireland.  Their actions - verbal and written. 

FOREWORD

We have worked with St John Ambulance for nearly 30 years.  We hold the organisation in incredibly high regard but am disappointed with their actions in light of recent events.  In the event of an incident, We have one hundred percent faith in their integrity and honesty, we just wish they were more approachable and would listen.  


What Child Protection did to a victims family.

A true account of the carry on, Tusla investigation and subsequent result.


The issue at hand is based on a young person who experienced unwanted attention and advances from another young person in a Dublin based division.   The officers locally, acted in a perfectly respectable, efficient manner and followed all child protection procedures.  The issue is not what happened, but what happened next.


When investigating any incident, it is important to support the victim, to listen to their wishes and investigate thoughly.  It is not to ignore the childs wishes, or contact people the child wishes to have as support - and tell them they cannot be part of it, or contact tusla and make  disparaging  reports about the family and their home.  Nobody knows the modern day stresses people are under and when a family is stressed already, attacks on the family unit of a victim are wholly inappropriate.  One of the parents had been hospitalised around that time and this created more stress.


There is a large amount of information that we have to filter.  We may scan the documents and post them here - it is our data after all, our privacy cannot be infringed BY US.  We are explaining what they did, and then if we post the documents, you can draw your own conclusions.


Under data protection laws, any person can serve a data request on a data controller for a release of data held about them.  


Unfortunately, our data  request was not processed.  The Tusla data officer could not explain why our request was not fulfilled, and the family  subsequently had to make an official complaint to the Data Protection Comissioner to get it.


The St John request got lost as well.  The person involved told us over the phone they knew nothing about the request.  Yet the person we contacted for the release told me they notified the child protection person the same day.    We guess this is why you should always do things in writing so people dont forget.



Recent Child Protection

The child protecton team has been revamped in StJohn, with massive, proper emphasis using proper principles and procedures.  HOWEVER, in the PAST there was an issue with the implementaion of the policy.  It culminated in an inability to talk to certain people as their actions could be deemed extreme.  In one instance we are aware of  "an organisation"  where there was an issue with a disturbed young person , who was off duty and out of uniform, who was brought home by another young person as a safety measure.  The young lady had alcohol taken and was very upset.  The first young person rang home for advice and was advised not to leave her.  The distressed young person was put to bed and  advice was sought from an officer.  The advice was to follow child protection policy.  When asked of the officer, knowing what they know of the relevant people who would get involved, did they really expect they actually do that,  the reply was "If this conversation was happening, I would be telling you that is policy" but it aint happening so its not an issue.

The young person was put to bed and a small knife was found in her pocket. The parents were called.  They were offered the option of coming to collect, or letting the young person sleep it off.   They opted to collect the young lady.  It was recommended the young lady got some help.

It is all very well having a superduper policy and written procedures, but if you have no confidence in the relevant people, in all due conscience, you cannot talk to them.    It makes the policy mute.   This information was communicated to the Shannon inquiry and the widespread dissatisfaction with the relevant person, but rules are rules.

Secret Meetings that didn't happen!

In an attempt to get the child protection people to respect the wishes of the child, and to stop tormenting the victims family, a  meeting was arranged with 2 St John Ambulance officers in The Arc gastrobar, Liffey Valley.  The officers while sympathetic, could not do anything or make representations on our behalf as the people involved could not be spoken to.

The meeting itself was a friendly "this did not happen"  This meeting was disclosed to The Shannon Enquiry.


Childrens First Legislation.

Children first child protection legislaton.


Dr Geoffrey Shannon

Dr Geoffrey Shannon was given the task of compiling a report into the handling and procedures of Child Protection in St John Ambulance Ireland.

His independant report is known as the Shannon Report.

https://stjohnambulancereview.ie/final-report


The family were calm and happy to allow the child protection  team to undertake the investigation.

The result of the Tusla investigation.

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  • Privacy Policy
  • Current Child Protection
  • The over 70s issue
  • Did he or didn't he?
  • Inappropriate data usage.
  • Conclusion
  • The Shannon Report
  • Tusla
  • Data Access Release

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Data Breach

There has been a breach of data regulations in St John Ambulance Ireland.  Information garnered in an investigation, was used in a personal capacity to contact someone via Facebook Messenger.  This is extremely unwelcome and the Child Protection Person has absolutely no right to do this.  It was officially reported  to the data protection officer. on May 22nd.   This person in question  has, just this week, been appointed by St John as Complaints handling and Child Safeguarding officer.